St Francis Q&A

Monday, August 14, 2006

"Hell is not spoken of anymore" (cont.)

This is a continuation of my post from Friday which responded to a blogger's question about Hell. I will post my notes on Heaven and Purgatory in the near future. Once again, we have nothing to fear in we live in the Grace of Christ.
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c. How long does Hell last?
- “eternal fire, eternal punishment, eternal separation

- Lk 16:19-31 The rich man and Lazarus
- “a great gulf has been fixed, to prevent those who want to cross from our side to yours or from your side to ours


d. Who goes there? (we know there are souls in Hell, but can’t know specifically whom)

Scripture

Jesus : see notes from previous post +

- “all evil doers” (Mt 13:41)
- “many take the road that leads to destruction” (Mt 7:13)
- “the elect are few” (Mt 22:14)
- “it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for someone rich to enter the kingdom of Heaven” (Mt 19:24) - referring to someone whose god is money

- is Judas in Hell? can't say for sure, but Jesus says it is “better for that man (by whom the Son of Man is betrayed) if he had never been born!” (Mt 26:24)

-“anyone who does not remain in me is thrown away like a branch-and withers; these branches are collected and thrown on the fire and burnt” (Jn 15:6)


St. Paul
- "those who behave in these ways (sexual vice, impurity and sensuality, the worship of false gods and sorcery, antagonisms and rivalry, jealousy, bad temper and quarrels, disagreements, factions and malice, drunkenness, orgies and such things) will not inherit the kingdom of God" (Gal 5:18-21; cf. 1 Cor. 6:10)

St. John
- “sin that leads to death” (1 Jn 5:16) - i.e., mortal sin


Church
-“those who die in mortal sin without repenting and accepting God’s merciful love means remaining separated from him for ever by our own free choice” (Catechism of the Catholic Church, # 1033).

- mortal sin:
1. grave offense (it's wrong) -mainly, direct offenses against the Ten Commandments
2. full knowledge (I know it's wrong)
3. full consent (I freely choose to do it)

CCC, 1861:
- "mortal sin is a radical possibility of human freedom, as is love itself. It results in the loss of charity and the privation of sanctifying grace, that is, of the state of grace.
- "if it is not redeemed by repentance and God's forgiveness, it causes exclusion from Christ's kingdom and the eternal death of hell, for our freedom has the power to make choices for ever, with no turning back.
- "However, although we can judge that an act is in itself a grave offense, we must entrust judgment of persons to the justice and mercy of God" (in other words, we can judge an action as a grave offense, but only God can judge what's in a person's heart; that's why we can never say that "so and so" is in Hell; also, we don't know if at the moment of death that he/she showed some sign of repentance-'Lord, have mercy' - that God would take into account in his infinite Mercy)


4 distinctions of Hell:
a) damned - eternal punishment
b) limbo (Abraham’s bosom) - holy souls (from OT) there until Christ freed them
c) limbo (infants) – not official teaching; but "Holy Innocents"?
d) purgatory - temporal punishment

-“God predestines no one to go to Hell" (CCC, #1037)

- Hell is the result of free will, and ultimately, God's Love
- God loves us so much that He has given us free will in order that we will choose to be with Him in Heaven
- He respects our free will so much that He allows us to choose to reject Him; He helps us so much in our lives (with His grace) to choose Him, but won't ever force us to love Him
- our free will is REAL (the "power to make choices for ever, with no turning back")
- God wills each of us to choose Heaven, but allows us to choose Hell
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Fatima prayer: "O my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of Hell. Lead all souls to Heaven, especially those most in need of thy mercy."

9 Comments:

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    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:27 PM  

  • What do you do if you know someone is commiting mortal sins and is still recieving the Eucharist?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:56 AM  

  • continuation of above

    She will not go to confession.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:01 AM  

  • I bet there are a lot of people who are commiting mortal sins and receiving the Eucharist. I also bet they have not idea of the what the scriptures say about what the consequences are of receiving unworthily(no one is worthy really-but definately not with mortal sin).

    By Anonymous Mortal Sin & Receiving Eucharist, at 12:44 PM  

  • I always hear a lot of evangelicals and Southern Baptists talking about hell. Heck, I think that a lot of them misunderstand Catholic Faith and think we are headed for Hell. Why don't we talk about Hell? I think nobody thinks that they are going.......but a lot of us must be....according to the scriptures.
    "the road to hell is wide...."

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:49 PM  

  • Oh puleaseeese!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:14 PM  

  • To anony #4(puleaseeese), “many take the road that leads to destruction” (Mt 7:13)
    - “the elect are few” (Mt 22:14)
    - “it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for someone rich to enter the kingdom of Heaven” (Mt 19:24) - referring to someone whose god is money
    This is to "Oh puleaseeese!" Not my words, the words of Jesus. I have had non-Catholic Christians call Catholics "Mary" worshippers, statue "worshippers" and all kinds of stuff. We have been accused of idolotry and been told that we shouldn't tell our sins to a priest but directly to God. My children have been told that wearing the crucifix is wrong...that Christ is risen after all. It is very important to defend the faith, take hell seriously, and realize that there are many people headed there (of course i am not referring to people on the blog site) - just in general!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:52 AM  

  • "The purer families are, the healthier the nation will be."

    How very true!

    I have noticed that the more you do : go to Mass, go to Eucharist adoration etc. the more the devil tries to trip you up. It is amazing what he will do to try to stop you and others from getting closer to god.

    What is really sad is when you see someone fall into his hands and "they" think they have seen the light when it is not really true. They put down the church and the teachings, lie, start doing the occult, watch porno etc. and don't want your help.
    At this point all you can do is get away from them and pray for their soul.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:57 AM  

  • To the last anon:

    Yes, it is very sad to see some-one get pulled away from the Truth. It is really hard when they won't "listen," "accept," or "see," the Truth. I agree in praying, partaking in the Sacraments as much as possible, and praying the Rosary. Doing all these things keeps us focused on Christ. Oh and I almost forgot fasting! The only problem with "staying away from these people," is sometimes they can be in your immediate family. That's my situation. It is a real heart breaker. So sometimes you can't "get away," and it is crushing! Thanks for the reminder to keep praying for the souls of the lost and confused.....especially in our own families. May they see Jesus in their loved ones and may the love bring them back.

    By Anonymous Hope,Faith&Love...the greatest of these is Love...., at 5:18 PM  

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